Saturday, July 11, 2009

Apologetics Episode 2 Trinity is not biblical

In christendom, one of the most debated topic is the nature of God as Three in One and Three is One. The True Jesus Church holds a view different from many Christian communities, with sufficient biblical proofs, that Belief of Trinity is not correct.
Trinity Doctrine in the Godhead is so ingrained in the people, that when someone questions and challenges this erroneous doctrine, he will be immediately called heresy and branded as a "cult". Yet, is this doctrine supported by the Bible? Simply, no.

Introduction
Definition of Trinity and its Brief History
- A group consisting of three closely related members
- the union of the Father and Son and Holy Ghost in one Godhead,
which means the Father, Son and HolySpirit are God,
Yet the Father is not the Son, and the Son not the HolySpirit. (?!!)
The early church in its simple faith believed in One God,
and that God was all in all to them.
The term Trinity never existed in the Scriptures nor during early apostolic times,
neither did they believe in the 3 persons in the Godhead.
they simply believe that each was a "manifestation" of One and the same God,
as mentioned in the Bible.
Soon after the "original" apostles of Jesus passed away,
heresies crept in and remained firm in Christianity till today.
Trinity developed itself in history, stirring much controversies and problems
that almost tore the church apart.


The explanation of Trinity by Trinitarians(those who believed in Trinity)
is extremely confusing.
"There are 3 persons but all equal in one essence.
Yet they are 3 truly distinct individuals and not the same,
YET again, they are one God. "
When the trinitarians are challenged with more questions, they will just say,
"Well, dear,
it's a great mystery of faith that no human mind can comprehend."
LoL indeed, it IS a mystery.
1Cor 14:33 states that God is not a God of confusion and disorder. Would He be responsible for a doctrine about Him so confusing that even Hebrew, Greek and Latin scholars cannot explain?

Conclusion
The Father = the Son = the Holy Spirit = one God
the Son = the Father = Holy Spirit
1) There is only one God, and Scripture does not say that the Son is neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit.
The fullness of God is found in Christ (Col 1:19; 2:9).
2) The Lord Jesus also said that the Father was in Him (Jn 10:38; 14:10,11).
3)Jesus Christ, the Son of God is identified with the Father (Isa 9:6; Jn 10:30; 14:9).

4) The Lord Jesus indirectly identified Himself as the Holy Spirit.
When referring to the coming of the Holy Spirit,
the Lord Jesus said, “I will come to you” (Jn 14:18)
and “a little while, and you will see Me” (Jn 16:17).

5) The Bible calls the Holy Spirit the Spirit of Jesus
(Acts 16:7; Rom 8:9; Gal 4:6; Phil 1:19; 1Pet 1:11).

The Holy Spirit is also called the Spirit of the Father (Mt 10:20),
the Spirit of God (Mt 3:16; Rom 8:9; 8:13,14; 1 Cor 2:11; 3:16; 6:11; 12:3; ),
or the Holy Spirit of God (Eph 4:30; 1Thess 4:8).

6) The Holy Spirit that lives in believers is also called the Spirit of God
and the Spirit of Christ (Rom 8:9-11).

7) The resurrection of Jesus Christ by the Father (Gal 1:1)
is also done by Christ himself (Jn 2:19).

8) Jesus answers prayers (Jn 14:14) and the Father answers prayers (Jn 15:16).
9) The Holy Spirit will speak for the believers (Mk 13:11),
and this Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father (Mt 10:20) and Jesus himself (Lk 21:15).
hope this little article will help you to better understanding of the beliefs of the True Jesus Church.
Visit www.tjc.org for clearer explainations.
May the Lord Jesus, the True and Al-mighty God be the lamp to your feet,
leading you to the Truth and Salvation.
God bless.

5 comments:

  1. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth,
    and it is only through the Holy Spirit that the Truth shall be revealed.

    The HolySpirit is God, is Jesus and is the Father, they co-exist. At different times, God manifests Himself differently.

    In Old Testament, God was in a status of Jehovah(and more);
    In New Testament, God came in form of flesh, with the objective to set an example for man to emulate, in order to receive Salvation from bondage of sins.
    And the holy spirit shall stay with us, in our hearts.

    Different status for different roles, yet One God, just like Obama is called "President", at the same time, is called "Daddy" (by his children), and is called "Honey/Husband" (by his wife), and is called "son" (by his parents).

    the True Jesus Church is established by the Holy Spirit, and the Truth is revealed through the Holy Spirit in the church. So, The Church teaches in full accordance of the Bible, and shall be our lamp in our journey of Faith.

    May God bless us.


    aaronccf

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  2. Greetings

    In response to the above post,
    please view the following video:

    The Human Jesus

    It's a 2-hour video.
    Please be Berean and study the points made in the video;
    and prayerfully it will aid you in
    the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord..

    Yours In Messiah
    Adam Pastor
    The Human Jesus

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  3. thanks for your kind suggestion. I will look into that video and try to understand later. Mind explain to us briefly your belief as a simple summary for the video? your effort appreciated.

    Yours sincerely,
    Aaron Ccf

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  4. Matthew 24:36 (New International Version)

    The Day and Hour Unknown
    36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son,[a] but only the Father.


    Jesus, the Son, was actually the Father Himself, and was God Himself. So then, did he lie about "nor the Son" or did he actually not know?

    it'd be like you guys are slappin yourselves.

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  5. Jesus is God Himself, Jesus is the Father, and the Holy Spirit, as mentioned above in the post. Yet, Jesus as the almighty God has limited Himself to fleshly bounds, and made a choice of ceasing all His attributes so that He bore the name of the Son, this all would end when the Salvation Plan was finally accomplished. Now in the 21st century, we have the Salvation grace because of Jesus' sacrifice as the Lamb to redeem our sins.

    When Jesus was in flesh, He needed a source of Spiritual attributes to overcome the flesh. At the same time, He came to set an example to man as the Son of God.

    It's a matter of God's time and God's plan to divide His ministry into different roles. Perhaps with the objective to put things easy for man to grasp and understand. At the same time, to accomplish the Justice virtue of God's nature.

    Jesus, being in the nature of a Son(in flesh), He had the obligation to act in His role for man to emulate. No one except God knows the Hour of His Second Coming. Jesus, being in form of flesh, should not know because He was still in flesh before the Salvation plan was accomplished.

    God was just, God could have put things so much easier, eg. Just say a word "Let the Salvation be done", then all man will receive salvation grace. But God didn't do that, to accomplish justice to man and perhaps, even to the devil.

    Let's not ask silly questions like "can God create a stone that He Himself can't lift?"

    For God is wisdom, do you think anyone of us, including the Devil have the capacity to comprehend the Greatness of His wisdom?

    God bless

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