Irrelevant Doctrines and Teachings
Christians have records of incorporated things of the world into their religion. People should change their ways to catch up with the religion. You cannot change the religion to suit the people. In a conference, Constantine incorporated paganism into Christianity, and declared a prophet of God, Jesus to be God Himself. In order to attract pagans into Christianity. He killed the monks and many who rejected Trinity and paganism. How can we follow a religion that follows human will and paint pictures of Jesus and say He was God when YOUR bible actually states that nothing under heavens and on earth resembles God?
Contradiction in Oneness of God
Jesus Himself acknowledged that God is one. Yet Trinity came to exist with many contradictory bible verses. And Christians worship 3 gods, God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit! Trinity, you say, it’s a concept made since Genesis, “come, let US make…” says God…
Firstly, this making Jesus into God is a blasphemy.
Secondly, the bible contradicts itself in so many ways. God is one, yet God is not alone, but 3?
You hold your bible passionately, turn to Matthew 21:11 This is Jesus the Prophet. Luke 24:19, says Jesus the Prophet of Nazareth. Jesus is God? But the bible of yours says Jesus is a prophet. “Not my will, but Thy Will.” Mat 26, Jesus said his will was inconsequential and unimportant. Jesus called, “our God” and this means Jesus himself was a worshipper of the God above, if Jesus was God, who can a God talk to another God in Heaven when there should be only one God?
And if Jesus was God, how could God ascend to God?
Jesus is a spiritual son of God, because everyone is called the children of God.
A god that teaches Suicide
You say, Jesus came to the world to shed blood and die on the cross for salvation of men. You believe that, right? Doesn’t that mean Jesus, the God you call, has committed suicide, and makes him a god that teaches suicides?
My answer for Contradiction in Oneness of God
ReplyDeleteFirstly, I would like to explain about the Trinity. Our church (TJC) DOES NOT believe in Trinity. We believe tat God is only ONE! NOT 3 gods!!! Only have ONE God. "O-N-E" '1' Satu sahaja.
Jesus = God.
Jesus has the Attributes of God, which is Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence.
That is y, during the Genesis, God said “come, let US make…” Or maybe God is talking to the angels. No one know.
The main point is, Jesus is Omnipresence.
1. When Jesus was on earth, He was also in heaven.
In John 3:13 says “No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven.
John 14:11 “Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.”
John 17:21 “that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You, that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.
2. Jesus promised he would be in the midst of his disciples when they gather (Mt 18:19-20,28:20; Acts 18:9-10,23:11)
3. Jesus dwells in the believers (Jn 14:20, 17:21-23; 2Cor 13:5)
4. The fullness of the Lord fills all in all (Eph 1:23, 4:10)
Again I want emphasize that Jesus is God. Jesus = God.
1. God is the Creator (Gen1:1; Neh 9:5; Isa 42:5)
Jesus is the Creator (Jn 1:1-3; Col 1:16; Heb 1:10)
2. God is the Savior (Isa 43:11; Hos 13:4)
Jesus is the Savior (Lk 2:11; Acts 4:12; Jude 24)
3. God is King (Ps 10:16, 96:10)
Jesus is King (Rev 11:15)
4. God is the King of glory (Ps 24:10)
Jesus is the Lord of glory (1Cor 2:8)
5. God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords (Deut 10:17; Dan 2:47)
Jesus is the Lord of lords and the King of kings (Rev 17:14, 19:16)
6. God is the Lord of life (Deut 32:39; Jer 38:16)
Jesus is the Lord of life (Jn 1:4, 11:25, 14:6)
7. God is the first and the last (Isa 44:6, 48:12)
Jesus is the first and the last (Rev 1:17, 22:13)
Moreover, Jesus is the NAME of God.
In Philippians 2:9-11 “Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, and that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
Father, Son, Holy Spirit isn’t the name of God, but they are just a status/identity. Same as “Prophet”. Prophet is the job of Jesus.
For example, You. You are the “son/daughter” at the same time you are “father/mother” and at the same time you are also a Doctor.
Give a name for u, Lee. Ur father say: “this is my son”; Ur son say: “this is my father”. Other ppl call u Dr.Lee.
Do u understand now?
(Mt 26) Jesus pray at Gethsemane, that is bcoz He playing the role of “Son of Man”. He was incarnate into flesh n blood, that time He holding the identity of “Son of Man”. Therefore He play like that. But He is actually the God.
Hope u understand.
As a conclusion, God is only ONE, and Jesus is the True God.
God = Father = Son = Holy Spirit = Prophet = JESUS.
Jesus is the NAME of God.
Regarding to the first question (Irrelevant Doctrines and Teachings)
ReplyDeleteOur church(TrueJesusChurch) DID NOT follow humans will.
We DID NOT incorporate paganism with Christianity.
We DID NOT kill ppl.
We DID NOT paint pictures of Jesus and say He was God.
We did not change the religion to suit the people.
We follow only the bible which is the words of God.
We only follow what God said.
We follow the Bible COMPLETELY... ^^
Loocy:
ReplyDeleteI answer the 3rd question first (A god that teaches Suicide)
Jesus DID NOT commit suicide... He was murdered!!! But Jesus was willing to be crucified on the cross in order to save us...
Did Jesus nail Himself on the cross?
For committing suicide means killing oneself intentionally.
In Mt 26:36-46, Jesus prayed at Gethsemane. If Jesus had the intention to kill Himself, why did He pray like this? HE PRAYED 3 TIMES!!
Therefore, Jesus isnt a God that teaches Suicide... Jesus teaches His great love towards us... Jesus was willing to die for us on the cross... Jesus died in order to remit the sins of the world. Jesus died to bear the sins of many (Mt 20:28; Rom 8:3; 1Cor 15:3; Heb 9:28)
John 1:29
"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world."
(Hebrews 9:27)
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment. (9:28) So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."
(Mt 26:67)
For the sake of our sins, Jesus was spit, struck, and slapped!!! (Mt 27:29-31)Jesus was forced to wear the crown of thorns, spit, struck, mocked and crucified on the cross!
Jesus is loving n merciful, Jesus loved the people, Jesus is Meek and Humble, Jesus is Holy n Righteous, Jesus is without sin and He never committed sin. Bcoz of His love; He came to this sinful world and died for us. Consequently, we all r able to be saved if we believe in Him and follow His will. Jesus had prepared the way of salvation, the way reached the kingdom of heaven. The conditions are so simple, just believe Jesus, and follow His will. That’s all!
Greetings...
ReplyDeleteConcerning "the Trinity"...
For my opinion, God is only ONE.
And Jesus is God.
God is Almighty, God is Omnipresence.
I agree that Father, Son, n Holy Spirit is God.
But, We CANNOT divide God because Father, Son, n HS is actually one which is God.
Yes, God incarnate into flesh n blood to die for us and His name is Jesus Christ.
God actually filled the whole world even the Universe. So, God can be on earth at the same time He is on heaven and even at anyplace else.
God able to appear here, Malaysia, at the same time He can be at USA, at the same time at North pole n South pole, and everywhere else.
God is above all. God is through all. And God is in all (Eph 4:6). God fills all in all (Eph 1:23)
God's power is too great; He is beyond all of us. Therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE for us to understand God.
God doesn’t limited by 'time' n 'space'.
How can we use our eyes which are limited by time n space to see God which is UNLIMITED?
Moreover, When u r saying that "trinity". You are saying that God is actually 3 persons.
Assuredly I tell u that is FALSE.
When you say ‘the trinity’, you are actually dividing God.
The Bible reveals that God is one.
1. The Lord God is one Lord (Deut 6:4; Mk 12:29)
2. There is one God (1Cor 8:6; 1Tim 2:5; Jas 2:19). God is ONE (Rom 3:30; Gal 3:20), the only true God (Jn 17:3), and the only wise God (Rom 16:27). There is one Father who is in heaven (Mt 23:9; Mal 2:10)
There is no other god but the Lord.
1. The Ten Commandments show that we should not have any other gods before the Lord God (Ex 20:3; cf. Deut 5:7; Isa 45:5)
2. God says, “See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god beside me…” (Deut 32:39; 1Kgs 8:60)
According to Bible which we all believe in, God said that He is only ONE.
God did not say that He is 3.
I will reconsider "The Trinity", if God said that. Prove to me!
DO NOT use human's thoughts/knowledge to judge God.
We should just believe that Jesus is God as bible said so.
We should believe that God is ONE as bible said so.
We should believe that God is the Almighty and God is the Creator as bible said so.
God is the ONE who give us knowledge.
God's knowledge is much more beyond us.
God know everything no matter past, present, and future.
What we need to do now is believe in Him, the Almighty God, Lord Jesus Christ.
We must follow His will and His words which is the Holy Bible.
Let the words of God (Holy Bible) be our standard.
It is TRUE if we follow Holy Bible.
It is certainly WRONG if we did not follow Holy Bible.
Hallelujah, All glory to our Lord Jesus Christ.
the doctrine of Trinity is further explained in the new post, Apologetics Episode 2, Trinity Is Not Biblical. May God guide us.
ReplyDeleteAaronCcf
the post mentions a controversial point that i forgot to clarify, "since Genesis, Trinity was already established"
ReplyDelete"We" or "Us" spoken by God, in fact, were a term used by Emperors and Kings in the Royal Language. Thereby referring God as the King of kings, with the absolute power.
The Author Moses did not confuse the readers by describing God with singular "He" or "His" instead of plural "they" or "their" in vs27.
God bless.